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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Season 4 Episode 1: Matthew McConaughey 

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Buy Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
This episode was recorded: 12/21/2020
The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast can be found at www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/
Matthew McConaughey (actor, producer, and best-selling author of Greenlights) sits down with Jordan B. Peterson to talk about Matthew’s new book, his upbringing, his relationships with his mother and father, his journey to being at peace with his fame, what it’s like to play malevolent or dark characters in movies or on television, and a surprising satirical review of Greenlights.
Find Matthew McConaughey on Twitter @McConaughey and on Instagram @officiallymcconaughey and basically anywhere. Check out his new book Greenlights, which has sold more than 1 million copies, available at www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson's new book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, is available for preorder now: amzn.to/3l16Hzk
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Show Notes:
[1:00] Jordan Peterson kicks off the conversation by asking why and how Matthew McConaughey wrote his book Greenlights.
[4:00] Matthew realized he needed to write the book himself without a ghostwriter as initially planned and dig back into his journals as a form of necessary reflection on the past.
[6:00] Matthew’s old journals revealed their common thread through all the stories, poems, and bumper stickers. That common thread was the creation of good things in life through mindset or action “Greenlights.”
[12:00] Jordan talks about his initial response after reading Matthew’s book and how his expectations were changed.
[14:00] Matthew talks about his solo trips when starting to create the structure of his book. Jordan comments that this was a book written by a celebrity that did not really focus on the traditional parts of being a celebrity (very family-focused and foundational). Matthew states, “When we were editing the book, I found that the more personal the stories became, the more relatable they seemed to become, to the human condition, and that was my hope.”
[18:00] Jordan and Matthew revisit the African trip, chasing dreams and having the same exact dream multiple times over the span of many years.
[24:00] What was the personal impact on Matthew during his trip to Africa where he got to strip away the identity we all know him for and exist as something else? Jordan comments that very often, people confuse their reputation with who they really are, and they start to act as a representation of their reputation instead of themselves; it’s an easy trap to fall into.
[22:00] Matthew discusses dealing with the pitfalls of fame. Matthew covers his changing relationship with his mother due to success.
[25:00] Jordan B. Peterson asks Matthew McConaughey about some of his acting work in True Detective and playing dark characters. “How do you play a dark role very well without letting the darkness invade you?”
[32:00] Matthew talks about the positive aspects of the sometimes tense relationship with his father and having a childhood that balanced love and hardship directed from the same people.
[37:00] Jordan and Matthew continue talking about going deeper into the psychology of a dark character like Rustin Cole on True Detective
[45:30] Matthew expanded on the short-term effects of initial fame.
[51:30] Matthew and Jordan discuss the long-term effects of fame.
[55:00] Jordan points out, “If flawed people were incapable of creativity, we would have no creativity.”
[1:03:00] How Matthew and Jordan first became friends.
[1:07:30] Matthew shares a comical review of his own book written as if Jordan was the one reviewing it.

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Matthew McConaughey’s new book Greenlights: www.amazon.com/Greenlights-Matthew-McConaughey/dp/0593139135
Sherlock Holmes lives.
Sherlock Holmes lives. پیش 6 روز
I did NOT intrude into anyone's sex life!!! I think that some bastard may have set me up!!!
Sherlock Holmes lives.
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@Historia Antiqua Do you mean loves Nietzsche so much, me, Jordan Peterson or Wagner. Wagner and Nietzsche fell out with each other by the way.
Sherlock Holmes lives.
Sherlock Holmes lives. پیش 7 روز
@Historia Antiqua "The most important lessen we have learned from history is that we haven't learned anything from history." Hegel ( 1770 - 1831 )
Historia Antiqua
Historia Antiqua پیش 7 روز
@Sherlock Holmes lives. Just a good-will tip: you probably don't want to make the "hidden Nazi" accusation while being a fan of someone who likes Nietzsche so much.
Historia Antiqua
Historia Antiqua پیش 7 روز
@Sherlock Holmes lives. "Is it a coincidence that Wagner was interested in Norse mythology and Hegel?" = "Liking Norse mythology means you're a Nazi?" Or is it "a composer?" Or perhaps you just like fat ladies singing? Fiiiiigaro Figaro Figaro figaaaroooooooo. "The mind, when desiring to conceal that which it does not wish others to know, will almost always present itself as the very opposite." - Hegel
Maria Jose Martinez
Maria Jose Martinez پیش 2 ساعت
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson, the last gentleman in academia. And also he’s one hell of an interviewer, on top.
Jim Dunn
Jim Dunn پیش 5 ساعت
McConaughey i think the best part for you to play would be a fake televangelist clairvoyant faith Healr you would be perfect for something like that if you could come up with a story ive saw a few interviews with other celebritys and thay all say you draw them in very good talker you have that thing your a charmer
Earth Angel
Earth Angel پیش 9 ساعت
Yes!! That was well worth watching from start to finish! I'm so happy that Jordan is doing podcasts! I'm so excited to watch them ALL.
Marce K
Marce K پیش 10 ساعت
Appreciating this so much, and can't wait to go read both your books
Andrew MacLachlan
Andrew MacLachlan پیش 16 ساعت
Thoughtful, caring and purposeful discourse. Thank you. Love it.
Kurt Hubbard-Beale
Kurt Hubbard-Beale پیش 18 ساعت
.. Hmm, common denominator that both Mathew and Jordan don't/won't address. And THAT is the now much more apparent unmentionable intrinsic connecting, Masonic Cabaalistic thread. They mislead the casual listener in this way whilst presenting themselves to be 'utterly frank and open' etc. It's a sort of Misdirection which is ALSO a trademark of Cabaalists. Hollywood whether we are bothered to look or not, IS centred in Secret Society Babylonian Talmudic Zionist principles. Do what thoust wilt. Actors guild was created by and for, those that AGREE to present another persona, another narrative and guide society to view what they are showing you. As for Jordan Peterson and Psychology, Psychiatry - they are born out of B'nai B'rith secret society Cabalism. Freud was a Cabalist High level Mason Jew. Deception is the key here. Nazism itself is a point in fact as it was yet ANOTHER vehicle, a construct of control, for the Elite Sabettean Frankist Judaic Banking families to utilise over society, as if money was never enough. Clearly it was not. Read as much as you like to, date to perhaps regarding Psychology of Hollywood and its roots to be found emanating from 'Think Tank' the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations also, of which Sigmund Freud was the First Director.. Hitler himself had been funded by the money of Wall St. as had Trotsky, Lenin and a little later Stalin by this Banking Cartel - the basic Lie that endures in our history books today. Hitler was not only funded by the Cabaal and trained at what was the earlier form of the Tavistock Institute but the Web of deception continues with many unfortunate ugly truths that mislead the world and our Worldview today. Research is always best🙏
keegalonius
keegalonius پیش 18 ساعت
JP.... Doc, you should talk to THOMAS SOWELL. you guys are great!!
channel 105
channel 105 پیش 23 ساعت
That's not funny at all. To gi've opportunity and then stripe the career opportunity. You have someone in a level of poverty. You too will experience poverty.
CYBRCDZEN
CYBRCDZEN پیش 23 ساعت
Dr j.p is the goat. I wish you and your family a long healthy life you are one of the most inspirational for boys and men. Thanks Dr.
DIVISIONINCISION
DIVISIONINCISION پیش روز
I live in Texas and it astounds me how McConaughey can tolerate how far Austin has fallen as a city. It's not really a place for a conservative.
bianchi1885
bianchi1885 پیش روز
Two major bad-asses. Not many to be found in the 21st century.
Brent Renkin
Brent Renkin پیش 2 روز
There are still men that one can look up to. Thanks Mr's Peterson and McConaughey,
Little Kahunas777
Little Kahunas777 پیش 2 روز
Your 50 .... hate you... lol
RJ Lee
RJ Lee پیش 2 روز
Glad to see Jordan back. Humanity needs his wisdom for as long as possible.
John Nguy
John Nguy پیش 2 روز
Mem muah!
Marlayne Madison
Marlayne Madison پیش 2 روز
I really admired Jordan Peterson and to have him interview Mattew McConaughey us such a treat. I have seen some personaities and also politicans. I worked for a media company. I am really impressed with these two men that they are real people and just real people. With the criminals we see in political life in all parties and celebrity personalities this is just a fresh breath of air. I do truly love Mattew McCouaughey's wife. When I have watched her She is the real deal. She seems not to be a plastic personality and just about what others have. I really do admire this women. He must be a good guy to get such s wonderful wife.
edward thompson
edward thompson پیش 2 روز
What a great supporter of President Trump
Zodiac Music
Zodiac Music پیش 2 روز
Not followed Jordan for a bit.. Good to listen to this mans wisdom again. Thank your Jordan. 🙏
Olga Kotlyarova
Olga Kotlyarova پیش 2 روز
I was a real pleasure hearing them talk ❤️
mark knight
mark knight پیش 2 روز
Being from uk. I know what bumper. Sticker is now.I like analogy and it’s brave space.
Rudy Boucher
Rudy Boucher پیش 2 روز
3100 downvotes? Bunch a derps.
Alexandra Nesterenko
Alexandra Nesterenko پیش 3 روز
A very enlightening conversation. What I like so much about this podcast is that it doesn’t feel like edited content, it feels like a conversation.
Liam Murphy
Liam Murphy پیش 3 روز
Thank you both you fine gentlemen loved this conversation you had with each other and to be able to listen in.
amit gabay
amit gabay پیش 3 روز
I'm so glad to see jordan peterson interviewing lord farquaad
Mystic_Saige_The_Psych
Mystic_Saige_The_Psych پیش 3 روز
JP can we have you debate craig biddle on the podcast?
Tory M.
Tory M. پیش 3 روز
Frailty was my favorite movie with him in it.
James Gazeley
James Gazeley پیش 3 روز
Did he just interstellar teleport near the beginning
Stíofán Caomhanach
Stíofán Caomhanach پیش 3 روز
Love to see the short series of Mathew's "Wet Dreams"!
jmz388
jmz388 پیش 3 روز
What a talk between two men.. we all men should have one with eachother... and dump the wokeism on the heap of history with leftism
Greg Lindstrom
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GENESIS 4:1 (exhaustive) And Adam knew Hava his wife, who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bare Kain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). TARGUM (exhaustive) who had desired the angel; and she conceived, and bear Kain; And she added to bear from her husband Adam his twin, even Habel (Abel). Genesis 3:14-15 The Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals;upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. 15 I will put enmity between you and the woman,and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. Fruit is the Hebrew word pirchach,, meaning progeny, brood, children or descendants. Genesis 3:3 but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die
Sticky McBeaty
Sticky McBeaty پیش 4 روز
Watching these prisoners feel sorry for themselves makes me laugh. I wonder if they felt that same pitty, and remorse for their victims...? I doubt it.
Joshua Horn
Joshua Horn پیش 4 روز
Deeply appreciated that. I had a paradigm shift a few years ago when I realized I had the ability to really forgive myself. Not having that ability is a good way to live a life that could seem not worth living. Im grateful for the reminder.
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Dre J
Dre J پیش 4 روز
the “why” of things
Sherlock Holmes lives.
Sherlock Holmes lives. پیش 4 روز
Favourite polymaths - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe ( 1749 - 1832 ) German poet, novelist, playwright, scientist, lawyer, politician, critic, and painter. Author of 'Faust'. Jacob Bronowski ( 1908 - 1974 ) Polish-British mathematician, poet, historian, biologist, playwright, humanist, inventor, philosopher, literary critic, and chess player. Author of 'The Ascent of Man'. Jonathan Wolfe Miller ( 1934 - 2019 ) English theatre and opera director, actor, author, television presenter, neuropsychologist, humourist, photographer, sculptor, and physician. "The polite polymath." 'The Independent' ( 2003 ) Stephen Hough ( b.1961 ) British-born classical pianist, composer, writer, poet, novelist, and painter.
Cabal
Cabal پیش 5 روز
What an amazing talk. I was only going to watch the first few minutes but I kept going through the end. Matt seems like an incredible human being.
Themi Stoklis
Themi Stoklis پیش 5 روز
Mature engaging conversation between two accomplished individuals.
Gah Tang
Gah Tang پیش 5 روز
The guttural H habitual bandana opportunely cry because dinner prudently look past a sweltering ambulance. tangy, idiotic bibliography
will boone
will boone پیش 5 روز
We miss you Dr. Peterson, hope you have a speedy recovery to bring some more logic to those who need it.
EyeGodZA
EyeGodZA پیش 5 روز
1:08:45 cracked me up.
Gustaf Segersson
Gustaf Segersson پیش 5 روز
I love intelligent people
Rhys Hall
Rhys Hall پیش 6 روز
thank fucking god for Jordon Peterson. i feel like i have my masculinity back because of that beautiful man.
Ourlordtomcruise 11
Ourlordtomcruise 11 پیش 6 روز
Coming off those benzos did a number on you big guy. You should do that whole thing again so I don’t have to see you on IRitem for a year.
Tav Ferry
Tav Ferry پیش 6 روز
You're back! Didn't expect The Lincoln Lawyer, but am delighted and pleasantly surprised by this conversation.
Erik Johnson
Erik Johnson پیش 6 روز
Matthew blocked his Mum out for 8 years?? EIGHT years? That is cold...
Inner Sanctum Occultube
Inner Sanctum Occultube پیش 6 روز
Fanatic. I'd so love to interview you to kick off my podcast to support my upcoming book
R K
R K پیش 6 روز
I like this man as an actor and a person. I hope all your viewers realize what kind of courage it takes for him to come here and speak to Jordan. Its no exageration to say that he's really putting his career in jeopardy simply by his past Pro-Christian remarks. Its truly sad but true that most of the cult that has become Hollywood all parrot one another and often try to out do one another in trying to be as absurdly liberal as possible. I don't just mean free-wheeling sex, drugs, alcohol and self centered behaviour...I mean that much is a given, but its grown into an echo chamber of who can be the most Leftist of the crowd. Who can condemn American history first, who can mawk Christianity and the traditional American family. They are after all actors, which is ok, but sadly many peopls hold them in such high esteem as if they're not all fake and good at being so. Congrats to Matthew M. for standing up for his true beleifs and casting fear aside. Good man you are.
ZenPhilosopher123
ZenPhilosopher123 پیش 6 روز
Alt-Right Alt-Right Alt-Right Alt-Right....
Cssaarr
Cssaarr پیش 6 روز
Jordan Peterson, I just want to thank you for bringing common sense back to public discussion, I know it must be a burden, I just wish you the best
J. David Del Carmen
J. David Del Carmen پیش 6 روز
where do you find a wife like that!!
Atena Abdinejad
Atena Abdinejad پیش 6 روز
I enjoyed this conversation very much. It was quite a journey, for me at least.
ldn0224
ldn0224 پیش 7 روز
Your hands are the wheel, regardless of what is happening. Matt has it totally correct and good lesson for all of us.
bealerDSB
bealerDSB پیش 7 روز
Michael, amongst other current male 'wood actors, are now below your skill set. Because, your ending speach was all about you-being your OWN JUDGE AND JURY.Wishing Michael, push your last 5minutes in your friends faces// "successful actors", and debate towards them -> e.g, quit paying your Uber expensive Therapist downtown, and just answer your own question.if you move within right side of the law,&you think you are doing the wrong thing, u probably are ;)) (?)
M.M.H
M.M.H پیش 7 روز
This is resonating . Thank you.
Eliza Bentley
Eliza Bentley پیش 7 روز
This was thoroughly enjoyable.
D. Craig Döring
D. Craig Döring پیش 7 روز
Absolute Brilliance. Thank you both for this great interview.
Daniela Fischerlehner
Daniela Fischerlehner پیش 7 روز
AMAZING! Thank you to both of you, truly inspiring!
JuiC33
JuiC33 پیش 7 روز
My dad and uncle in the same room? That's going to be an interesting conversation
Christina Niemiec
Christina Niemiec پیش 8 روز
Surprisingly great discussion!! Totally relatable! So many great points made by Jordan and Matthew! I loved it!
NatalieJune
NatalieJune پیش 8 روز
On Dr. Petersons' daughter Mikaylas channel, she made a podcast with Mathew as well. Did you see it, it's also good? It came out before this one. I bought his book immediately after watching it.
Krums Korner
Krums Korner پیش 8 روز
Talk about the blind leading the blind. A little history lesson for you. The death by crucifixion before crucifixion even existed: This prophecy was written 1,000 years before Jesus was born and centuries before Roman crucifixion was even invented. How did King David predict the future by saying this would happen to the Jewish Messiah? The prophecy itself came to fulfillment in Jerusalem around 33 AD when Jesus was executed by the Romans: 'And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them' Mark 15:24 The crucifixion of Christ under the Roman official, Pontius Pilate, is one of the most well-established facts of history. Even German atheist scholar, Gerd Ludemann declares, 'Jesus’ death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable.' Not one scientific scholar has debunked a single prophetic event from the Bible in over 2000yrs... not one. If one event had been debunked - there would be a date in history as the day the Bible was debunked. There is no such date. Get over yourselves
Lenny Lazerdisc
Lenny Lazerdisc پیش 8 روز
Was gonna watch 5 minutes before bed but that was worth how tired I'm gonna be tomorrow
dammie OG
dammie OG پیش 8 روز
:)
Natasa Damjanovic
Natasa Damjanovic پیش 8 روز
Awesome, frank interview. Thank you !!!
Gitfiddle 7766
Gitfiddle 7766 پیش 8 روز
McConaughey always stuck me as a thoughtful person and a bit of a mans man. I remember his phase of living in his Airstream camper on the beach thinking “That’s the way you do it!” Solid actor who’s got better with age.
roy bickley
roy bickley پیش 8 روز
Around the 45 minute mark when discussing how he plays opposite rolls of what is going on in real life sounds like a way to stay humble and appreciative maybe even subconsciously. Just a thought
sarf
sarf پیش 8 روز
Jordan Peterson was more handsome than Mathew when he was young 😀. Who agrees me
Bill Faulkner
Bill Faulkner پیش 9 روز
It’s honestly hilarious how comedic Matt is and how literal Jordan is about the exact same thing, and yet there’s still no loss to the moment.
Double Digit
Double Digit پیش 9 روز
Two frauds praising one another. Pathetic
Eric Button
Eric Button پیش 9 روز
1 comment : please stop wearing glasses
-WoF- DarkNewton
-WoF- DarkNewton پیش 9 روز
Jordan Peterson: "You struck me as an intensely likeable character" Journalist quote: "You struck me"
DrGains
DrGains پیش 9 روز
"you're hired" - msm
Ed Hume
Ed Hume پیش 9 روز
Inspiring humans, such different characters with so ugh agreement in perspective. Uplifting, inspiring and reassuring that there are decent and reflective men out there. Listen people, keep learning. Thank you both
devo malo
devo malo پیش 9 روز
Hey alright alright
Art Res
Art Res پیش 10 روز
I am wondering if MMcC would support the project Broke in LA by LM ARNAL, a script written during the HIV epidemic.
Connor Freeman
Connor Freeman پیش 10 روز
How wonderfully inane
Bogdan Khrushch
Bogdan Khrushch پیش 10 روز
This interview is gold
Jacob Schenkel
Jacob Schenkel پیش 10 روز
I am glad Dr. Peterson doesn't let it just pass when he makes broad statements that are not overtly obvious what he means or how it connects to what is being said. The simple questions of What do you mean by that? or Explain that a little further or What made you laugh at that? ... giving McConaughy the opportunity to show the depth of thought that he has put into the things he is talking about or relating us to. I particularly appreciate how he came back to asking him to talk about how his faith being stronger contributes to him being better able to play the dark/atheistic character in True Detectives. I know many people fault media outlets for their interviewers pulling punches and staying on the surface, but frankly most celebrity personalities would fall apart at such layer deeper questions and the discomfort of that doesn't make for good entertainment or learning. Having really read his book, Dr. Peterson knows he won't fall apart and can dig these layers deeper and flesh out the learning to be had in the conversation.
Noryo
Noryo پیش 10 روز
3.1k dislikes belongs to closed-minded individuals who care more about political tags than the content of someone's character
Derrick Gordon
Derrick Gordon پیش 10 روز
The world needs more Matt’s and Jordan’s in it. Hope you guys collaborate again soon, some great takeaways from this chat you two had.
Jeremiah Tothenations
Jeremiah Tothenations پیش 10 روز
I learned that Matthew McConaughey is not only an intelligent fellow and a good guy, but also can teleport to different rooms in his house on a whim!
flavtro
flavtro پیش 10 روز
hell yeah
omar ahmed
omar ahmed پیش 11 روز
This was amazing podcast, i really did enjoyed next iam gonna read that book green light ASAP🥰☺🤗
Mark Springer
Mark Springer پیش 11 روز
Typically Peterson is somewhat "teaching" to whom he speaks with. In this case its the other way around.
Oggydogg 313
Oggydogg 313 پیش 11 روز
I like this guy.. and True Detective was a masterpiece..
Leo Pruner
Leo Pruner پیش 11 روز
As Matt has said, “My mentor is the person I want to be 10 years from now.’ Looking foward to reading book and stop being the arrogant sob I was. There are no mistakes, just learning lessons.
astronaft2
astronaft2 پیش 4 روز
We'll said.
NatalieJune
NatalieJune پیش 8 روز
On Dr. Petersons' daughter Mikaylas channel, she made a podcast with Mathew as well. Did you see it, it's also good? It came out before this one. I bought his book immediately after watching it.
shairston1
shairston1 پیش 11 روز
It was nice to see Jordan smile.
Celladoor
Celladoor پیش 11 روز
'The sin is life, the punishment is death.' - Judge Death 'I am the law.' - Judge Dredd
arnolddd
arnolddd پیش 11 روز
One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen!
DOUGLAS HEIN
DOUGLAS HEIN پیش 12 روز
I haven't seen all of Matthew's movie but his role in True Detective IMO was his best. He was stellar in that role. BTW, of all the truly top Hollyweird stars, Matthew is far and away the most likeable.
Nick Ben
Nick Ben پیش 12 روز
Why do you Jordan Peterson diss Joseph Campbell? Are you doing it on purpose or are you merely ignorant of everything that Joseph Campbell wrote and said about mythology and following your bliss? I like listening to a lot of what you have said and read your book 12 Rules for Life. But when you talk about Joseph Campbell and mythology you lose my respect, sir.
Leila Christie
Leila Christie پیش 12 روز
More people should be like them. Self analytical, self improving, makes for better people
Raquel Carlino
Raquel Carlino پیش 12 روز
beautiful conversation!
Ready Towork
Ready Towork پیش 12 روز
So glad to hear both of you talk. Jordan your a blessing. Mathew your an inspiration and a phenomenal actor. I salute both of you.
NICHOLAS MESSINA
NICHOLAS MESSINA پیش 12 روز
Love both of these guys
rob olsen
rob olsen پیش 12 روز
we create problems to find solutions for them over and over until it doesn't make sense too. then we grow up....
Jacob Gardner
Jacob Gardner پیش 12 روز
Wheres the part where matthew mcconaughey days, "everybody wants to marry a super model but..."
Denis Bejtja
Denis Bejtja پیش 12 روز
Am I the only one who thinks Matthew McConnaughey lost touch with reality?
Timothy Lancaster
Timothy Lancaster پیش 12 روز
Wow.....
LPT
LPT پیش 12 روز
Thank you for your work, Mr. Peterson. I always enjoy to listen to your thoughts.
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